I am not making this up.
I kid you not, this guy is for real.
Kasey says:\ Its not right nor moral to intermix your race. For one, your going to produce mongrel children. Those children, naturally, are not going to be fully accepted by either of their heritage, be it one or the other. Its going to hurt them in the long run. Their life is going to be harder and thats not fair to them.He goes on like this a lot. Here's another gem:Secondly, we wouldnt have blacks, whites or orientals to begin with if thats not the way its supposed to be. If we are one big happy racial family, then a white couple should be able to have a black child without having to marry outside their race.
In the Book of Genesis, when it explains the creation of all the animals and the plants, it states that God created them after their “kind”. The Hebrew word for “kind” is “miyn” and it means ‘species’. If God didnt think it was necessary to make the races of animals after their kind, then why was it done this way? Further the Bible states that when the Gods looked at their creation, it was ‘good’ - Genesis 1:25. Romans 7:12 states that the ’law’ is holy, just and ‘Good’. Contexually speaking, to be made and reproduce after ones kind is lawful. Its holy and just.
Hence, there is no reason why it wouldnt be the same with humans.
Kasey says:\ Technically speaking, 'I' am not denying anyone anything by saying what Im saying. People are free to do what they choose regardless of the consequences, be they good or bad.I enclose, for posterity, one of my responses to this plainly psychotic individual. Mostly because, I suspect, the thread at ChristianForums that spawned this will be gone in the morning.If I were to go into more detail, I would state that to intermix all the species would mean that you would mix the cultures inherent to that species. The mexican culture is unique and so is the Irish culture, but they are to different races. The culture should remain seperate, therefore, it would remain unique and valuable. If you mix the two, the individual uniqueness of the two cultures gets diluted and loses a lot of its value. I dont think thats right. The cultures should retain their value, but that cannot completely be done if you continue to mix the heritage of two different races.
I never see a cheetah intermixing ‘its’ species with a lion, nor do I see, naturally speaking that is, a house cat mating with a jaquar. They are all part of the cat “species”, but they are different races within the cats. Its the same with humans. A black is different in more ways than one too a white person and a oriental as well. Their cultures are distintively different. The Blacks are the progenitors of a great myriad of different musical rythmns and schemes, the orientals are very good with anatomy and the workings of the body in Martial Arts. The Blacks are incredibly family oriented - and thats a very good thing. The Orientals, namely the Japanease have built incrediblely beautiful works of architecture.
Mixing the Blacks and the Orientals culture and race would dilute all of these things and, plainly speaking, thats an infringment on all that they accomplished on their own merit, with their own race and not with anyone else.
Seebs wrote:
Kasey sez:It isn't?
Its not right nor moral to intermix\ your race.
Is it immoral, or is it merely morally neutral?
For one, your going to produce mongrel children.Er, yes. You are. Which is a good thing, because they have mongrel\ parents. We're all mongrels. I'm a mix of, well, just about\ everything. My stepmom's Chinese, which is ironic because it's\ one of the few ethnic groups I can think of we don't have within\ the last five generations. My spouse's mostly Irish/Czech/Mongolian.
You think you’re not a mongrel? I laugh. If you’re human, you
probably have ancestors of “other races” within five or six
generations. It is virtually certain that you do within ten or
twenty.
Those children, naturally, are not going to be fully\ accepted by either of their heritage, be it one or the other.What "heritage" should be accepting me? I have only one heritage;\ I am human. The whole species is my heritage. Am I accepted? I\ like to think so.
You think pedigreed children will be any more accepted? Not while
folks like you are around.
Its going to hurt them in the long run. Their life is\ going to be harder and thats not fair to them.By the same argument, people of less than genius intelligence\ shouldn't be having children; the children won't be as intelligent\ as the children of geniuses, and this will make their lives harder,\ which is unfair. My spouse and I could live with this arrangement;\ who's with us?
Secondly, we wouldnt have blacks, whites or orientals\ to begin with if thats not the way its supposed to be.We wouldn't have blacks, whites, and orientals wanting to have\ children together to begin with if that's not the way it's supposed\ to be.
If we are one big happy racial family, then a white\ couple should be able to have a black child without having to marry\ outside their race.The same way people with blue eyes can make brown-eyed children?
In the Book of Genesis, when it explains the creation\ of all the animals and the plants, it states that God created them\ after their "kind". The Hebrew word for "kind" is "miyn" and it\ means 'species'. If God didnt think it was necessary to make the\ races of animals after their kind, then why was it done this\ way?Actually, I believe it says they reproduce after their kind.
However, our “kind” is “human”.
Further the Bible states that when the Gods looked at\ their creation, it was 'good' - Genesis 1:25. Romans 7:12 states\ that the 'law' is holy, just and 'Good'. Contexually speaking, to\ be made and reproduce after ones kind is lawful. Its holy and\ just.Indeed. And I promise you, if anyone I sleep with ever bears me\ healthy ducks, we will have a SERIOUS TALK ABOUT THIS.
Hence, there is no reason why it wouldnt be the same\ with humans.Indeed, it is. Humans mate with humans and produce human offspring.
Comments [archived]
From: dave
Date: 2004-10-12 16:21:41 -0500
(quoting Kasey) “The Blacks are incredibly family oriented - and thats a very good thing."
So all us non-blacks are hereby condemned to live non-family-oriented lives, because we’d be stealing the blacks’ culture otherwise, and that’s Wrong. And this, it necessarily follows, is a Good Thing.
Yep, that makes perfect sense. Well, at least as much as anything else he’s saying.
From: Jesse
Date: 2004-10-13 01:40:05 -0500
Er… has anyone explained to him that ‘race’ and ‘species’ are not synonyms? Only don’t use the word ‘synonym’; he probably thinks it means ‘Jewish church’…
From: Emily
Date: 2004-10-13 18:53:58 -0500
I remember translating an old english passage in which the author said it was a bad idea to translate the Bible into English because it would give people some really wacky ideas if they read the Bible without the help/interpretation of a priest.
Even though I disagree with the sentiment… man, when you look at nonsense like that, he kind of had a point.
From: Alyce
Date: 2006-06-07 08:02:03 -0500
From where I stand. God says that he did not want his people mixing with people (humans) that worshiped idols (idolatry). When those who worship God mix with those that worship idols, that where the mixing of people (humans) causes curses in families. This brings about destruction to all humans. If you look at the first testament you see that God wanted several groups of people destroyed, not because of their races, but because of their practices and worshiping of idols. He didn’t want his chosen people to mingle with those individuals because He considered them to be accursed because of their worshiping practices not because their skin color was different. God is Spirit and since we are made in His image, flesh does not have any significance, it is made from dust and dust it will return. So do you really think God cares about race.